High Caliber Firearms Training & Education

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This podcast episode discusses firearm safety and skills training . I have marked it as 18 years and older on YouTube and also Buzzsprout , which feeds out to all other podcast platforms Coming up . Meet Heather Allen , owner of High Calibre Firearms Training and Education . Heather is a certified concealed carry instructor and NRA certified handgun instructor based out of Pender County , north Carolina . She has a degree in criminal justice and offers classes on basic firearm safety and skills , north Carolina gun laws and more . Let's get started . Hello everyone and welcome to the Topsoil Insider podcast . My name is Krista and I am your host . Today I am interviewing Ms Heather Allen . She is the owner of High Calibre providing firearms training and education . Welcome , heather , and thank you for joining me . Thank you so much for having me . How are you doing ? I'm doing great . All right , let's get busy here . Let's start out with you , heather . Tell us about you and your background that led you up to opening High Calibre .

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I was born and raised in Long Beach , california , I graduated from Cal State , long Beach with a criminal justice degree , spanish minor . I also had to do an internship in college and I remember asking a college counselor like can this internship be done anywhere ? And they said sure . So I bought a one-way ticket to Honolulu , hawaii . Oh my gosh .

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I don't blame you .

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I interned for the attorney general's office in Honolulu . That was a great experience

Introduction to Heather Allen

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. And then came back graduated Cal State , Long Beach , and I remember telling myself if I don't get a good job , meet a good guy , I'll move back to Hawaii .

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And that's when .

Speaker 3 1:54

I started working for the district attorney's office in Newport Beach and I met my husband , tyler . Oh , wow , okay , so I did not end up moving back to Hawaii .

Speaker 2 2:04

I'm sorry .

Speaker 3 2:07

I think Surf City , our beaches are better than Honolulu beaches .

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So you've done all this You've gone to school , you've got your degree , you've gone and worked in Hawaii . You came back , you're working in Newport for the district attorney's office and you met your husband . So when was it that you started learning to shoot and handle a firearm ?

Speaker 3 2:28

It wasn't until I met my husband growing up in Southern California . I would say it was pretty typical where my dad had a firearm but he would always say it's under the bed , don't touch it . In the closet , don't touch it . He never taught me . He taught me how to surf which is equally important but never had a firearm . And so when I met my husband , who had prior military service , who was in the Navy he did SWIC , was like special warfare combat crewman . He did that for four years and then also was in the reserves . So when he would be gone with the reserves , I was home with our 18 month old . And that's when I really decided like I need to learn how to use this , I need to be proficient . And then I started working for the California Rifle and Pistol Association . That was an amazing job and I noticed a lot of girlfriends of mine . They go wait , where do you work ? Oh , can you teach me how to shoot ? Oh , really . And then it turned into friends of friends of friends . Like hey , you taught my friends so and so can you teach me how to shoot . And I just really remembered talking to my husband and saying I think there's a need for female instructors in . Southern California and then high caliber was created and it really took off .

Speaker 2 3:40

That sounds like it happened very organically . So tell me how you became certified , tell me about that timeline .

Speaker 3 3:46

Sure , it was a pretty simple process . You just have to go I went through the NRA , National Rifle Association and you get certified in basic pistol and then you take another class and you get certified to become a basic pistol instructor . I was actually contracted with a range in Los Angeles . What was interesting about there is that I would teach mostly African American women and that has been for the past five years , still going on strong . That is the biggest growing demographic of new gun owners in America .

Speaker 2 4:19

May I ask what made you decide to leave California ? And then how did you decide on surf city ?

Speaker 3 4:24

What made us leave California ? How much time do we have in this part guys ? There's so many reasons we were just done with California . Yeah , it was really expensive , it was not very safe , didn't feel like it was a great place for us to raise our daughter . It was just that time . And my husband always I found surf city . I found it . He gets all the credit . How did you find surf city it was . We knew we wanted to stay by the beach , had to have great schools and affordable housing , and then we came out and we checked it out . I was like , done , check , check , check , let's get us out here . I thought I would be a little sad when we drove off the 405 for the last time . No , I was just counting down the days and the hours .

Speaker 2 5:11

Now that you're in surf city , what certifications do you hold now for ? Did you have to renew your certifications

Leaving CA for Surf City

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for North Carolina ?

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I did not , which is nice because it's the National Rifle Association so that made things really easy With . The interesting thing I found out here is when I would tell people I taught basic handgun . It was more and more people were like , oh well , can you help me get my concealed carry permit ? I definitely listened and I got certified as a concealed carry instructor .

Speaker 2 5:39

Got it . Can you tell me some of the reasons that you think that proper handling and shooting of a firearm can be beneficial ?

Speaker 3 5:46

Sure , I will say that I know , myself and my family we feel infinitely safer in North Carolina than we did in California . But , that being said , crime happens everywhere and I think once you realize the cops can't be there with you every second to protect you , if an emergency happens and you need them , on a good day , it's going to be maybe seven to 20 minutes before the cops are going to come respond . So I like to tell people , we're our own first responders , we're always our own first responders . So there's definitely that aspect of just self-protection . And then I also had some women come to me in Los Angeles and they wanted to make it clear that they were against guns . But they found themselves in the stereotypical scenario where they were going through their grandfather's attic and they came across a firearm

Why it’s Beneficial to Learn Gun Safety and Skills

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and they had no idea what to do . And their kids were there too . So you know what would they have done if , if the kids had- gotten to that first .

Speaker 2 6:46

So can we talk about some of the statistics that you mentioned in the pre-interview ?

Speaker 3 6:50

Absolutely , so unfortunately in America we do have the quote unquote gun violence statistics . Roughly 30,000 Americans are killed by someone with a firearm every year . I think what a lot of people don't know is that about 63 to 64 percent are , unfortunately suicides . There are two organizations really trying to combat those statistics right now . One's Walk the Talk America , the other one is HoldMyGunsorg Really really great organizations . And then another thing I think people should understand are there are bad guys in that statistic . There are murderers , people who there was one scenario where there is a man deported for like at five times for a horrible crimes came back into Napa Valley , california , when he was pulled over by a female deputy . He immediately shot at her . He missed

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and she responded she killed him . And now that person , who was never should have been in our country , who's trying to murder a female deputy . He is now a quote unquote gun violence statistic in America . Right , and what I do wish the media would focus more on is all the times that firearms save lives Upwards of like three million times a year where a firearm , even if it's not used just the brandishing , have saved lives , and I really wish more people heard those stories .

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So let's talk about the classes offered by High Caliber . Please tell me about your concealed carry class .

Speaker 3 8:31

Sure , I tell people it's a fun , relaxed setting . I'm not a Marine , I'm not going to like scream at you , but it's great making it my own class . It's funny because I did a poll and I think exactly a hundred people did the poll . I said would you rather do break it up into two days or would you rather get it all done in one day ? And 50% said Friday night , saturday morning , and the other 50% said just get it all over with on a Saturday . So I offer both classes , okay . And the great thing is I hold them mostly at , like local coffee shops . So there's the Ridge , holly Ridge , and then there's Sundial . There's a new spot in Hampstead , it's called Upstairs Hampstead . I'm really excited about that venue . Oh yeah , I've seen it advertised . Right , yeah , yeah ,

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it's really nice in there . And then we'll shoot at the VFW in Holly Ridge . So there we'll go over gun laws and then we'll take a little break and we'll get out the fake ammunition and the handguns and go over all the parts the safety , how to properly load , unload , how to line up your sights , good grip , all that fun stuff . Okay , so back to the gun laws . Take a 20 question test that no one has ever failed . And then after that we go to the range and we'll do like a little cleaning party . I'll put some Chris Stapleton on , clean the guns , take them apart , put them back together . Then you walk away with your certificate that you would then take to your local sheriff's department .

Speaker 2 9:57

So you do have to go out to the range and fire your fire before you can get that certificate .

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You do you have to shoot from the three , five and seven yard line and you have to hit with in the silhouette 21 out of 30 rounds . How hard is the written test ? It's not hard .

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It's not that hard .

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You can miss six yeah and I out of how many ? There's 20 and we go over pretty much all the questions . I'll say circle this one and a lot of them are true or false .

Speaker 2 10:25

May I ask how much your concealed carry class costs ?

Speaker 3 10:28

For $120 . That covers everything . So that covers the ammunition needed and the targets and the range fees and the books as well .

Speaker 2 10:37

And how many typically are in your class .

Speaker 3 10:40

That's a good question . There's been some times where I've had to turn people away . Oh , I'll cap it at 16 there's . There've been a few classes at 16 and then some other classes . There'll be like four people .

Speaker 2 10:51

Okay , you never know , yeah , and what if I want to do a private class ? Do you offer that I do ? Yeah , okay , what about if I just won't like me and my girlfriends like ?

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my , my I love it .

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Yeah , I would do that as a take . As you know , do something together like that , okay those are always fun .

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One time I did it at chill , pretty big , super cute really take . That was a really , really fun class , so thank you , amber , for letting us do it there awesome .

Speaker 2 11:17

Okay , I love this idea too . It's the sip and the second . Tell me about the sip and the second .

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The second is very relaxed because we're at your local really cute coffee shop and there's all the the fake dummy rounds and we just drink our coffee and I go over all All basic handgun safety . So we don't talk about the laws or anything like that , it's all just this is how you use your firearm .

Speaker 2 11:43

Are you in a private room or is it kind of out in the open ?

Speaker 3 11:46

No , it's pretty much in the private in the room . Yeah , both sundial and the ridge they offer like a pretty private area . I mean , can you ?

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imagine if someone just walking in for their coffee and they see a table full of guns , you're like what's going on here ? Okay , it is Carolina .

Speaker 3 12:01

Cool , can I join ?

Speaker 2 12:02

Yep , and how long does the sip and the second last like ?

Speaker 3 12:06

an hour and a half .

Speaker 2 12:07

Okay it was by fast and what schedule , how often and what days and times do you do that ? I feel like .

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Thursday

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is kind of the new Friday night , so a lot of ladies will come out on a Thursday night . That's pretty much when I've gotten a good response for the sip and the second Okay and is there a fee associated with that one's ? $30 . But the cool part about that is it goes towards your concealed carry class and when you come to the concealed carry class you can leave . You can do whatever you want , because you've already taken that portion of the class . Okay so especially like if we do a Friday night , people will come from the laws and then they get to go home early and come back the next day Because they've already completed that part of the class . Got it Okay ?

Speaker 2 12:47

Do you have a lot of men attend the sip ? In the seconds you gave , only had two . Okay .

Speaker 3 12:54

Yeah , I would get a lot of couples for concealed carry classes .

Speaker 2 12:59

Okay , okay , and let's talk about ladies night ladies night is so fun .

Speaker 3 13:05

It started , we did it in California , and , much like in California , like in North Carolina , it started out with three girls , four girls and last month we had 12 women come .

Speaker 2 13:15

Oh , that's great yeah .

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Yeah , so it's growing . It's really fun . I started it because I feel like it's important . You know , even if you can't make sure the shooting range , just taking out your firearm once a month and Getting the dummy rounds and just practicing like getting reacquainted with your gun , but if you can and you have time to go to the range at least once a month , why not come to ladies night and brush up on your skills ? Yeah only $20 . That covers your range fee , all your targets and Howitzer is a really awesome clothing company Definitely want to check them out . They kind of sponsor us and they just sent us a huge new shipment of Awesome t-shirts , so I give those away and oh , that's cool .

Speaker 2 13:54

Yeah , and where is the ladies night Hell ,

Ladies Night

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that's also the VFW , okay , the veterans of foreign wars post .

Speaker 3 14:01

Okay , and we are getting floodlights put in , because when we started doing it last year , we'd shoot a few rounds . Okay , it's super dark . I can't really see my target .

Speaker 2 14:11

Yeah , floodlights are gonna be okay , okay , okay . Also , at that VFW there's a place where you can sit down and have a meal and some drinks afterward .

Speaker 3 14:21

The best bartenders in town and you can get drinks and all the food you want for like $5.00 . Nice .

Speaker 2 14:28

That's a deal . You also offer private firearms lessons . Let's talk about that and the prices .

Speaker 3 14:35

Yeah , so this was pretty big in California too , where I'd come to your house and kind of everything . We go around and sip in the second . I would go over that too . So we don't worry about the gun laws necessarily , but more about handling the firearm . Make sure you know how to load safely and unload the good grip , all that good stuff , and then we would go to the range after that and put all your new skills to the test .

Speaker 2 15:00

Can I ask ? I've heard you mention now a couple of times about learning the grip . Tell me what's important about the grip . I see a lot of things on the screen . Hold it to the side .

Speaker 3 15:08

I know I don't want to hold it to the side , yeah , so a good grip is important because you can experience jams if you're not holding it tight enough , if you're holding it too loose , too low , if you're like in the whole , like quote unquote teacup hold what's the teacup hold Like you hold

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it down instead of it in your palm .

Speaker 2 15:29

Yeah , okay , don't want to do that . I kind of wish this was on video so people could see what you're talking about .

Speaker 3 15:35

Yeah , I tell people you a good grip . What I learned that's helped me is you almost want to grip it like you're breaking a stick motion , but then you squeeze the trigger as light as you can .

Speaker 2 15:48

Okay , so you said this is two hours . It's one hour in the home and then about one hour at the range . So okay , and is this is for the whole family , sure ?

Speaker 3 15:57

I think that's very smart . To have your kids be aware If they do shoot , it completely takes out the mystery in guns . They know absolutely this is not a toy . They understand the power behind it .

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The .

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NRA has a program called Eddie Eagle and they wrote the most catchiest tune . It's a stop , don't touch , run away . Tell a grown up . And it's so good . But that's what they'll do . They'll stop and they know not to touch it .

Speaker 2 16:24

You offer a refresher courses as well .

Speaker 3 16:27

Sure yeah .

Speaker 2 16:27

It's pretty much just at the range . Okay , and you do teach kids alone without their parents as well . Can you tell me a little bit about that ? Well , most of the time the parents are there , are they shooting as well ? Yes , most of the time , okay , yeah .

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But , like for me , I taught swim lessons but I didn't want

For the Whole Family

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to personally teach my daughter , so I can understand , even if you know your way around a firearm . If you just want a different person teaching your child makes sense . It was interesting because in California I had at least three parents say we looked at a bunch of other websites but yours was the only one with kids on it .

Speaker 2 17:04

Interesting Still out in California . That just blows my mind .

Speaker 3 17:07

But as of July 1st of last year , there's a possibility I would have been fined $25,000 for having kids on my website . Really , because the governor signed an executive order saying you can't solicit guns to minors . It was like written , super vaguely .

Speaker 2 17:25

They're teaching safety about it would still fall into that category

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And unfortunately a lot of ranges I used to work for used to frequent . They stopped teaching safety to kids under the age of 18 because they didn't want to be fined $25,000 . So that was unfortunate .

Speaker 2 17:41

Earlier you mentioned that kids to remove the mystery of the gun is to just let them fire at once in a safe environment . Tell me about an experience that you had that kind of . Let you learn that yourself .

Speaker 3 17:56

Sure . So I taught one couple and they went from zero to 60 . Like they didn't have any guns I think they were testing out mine and then , the next thing , you know , they had like 10 guns .

Speaker 2 18:06

They were just all about it . Oh , wow yeah .

Speaker 3 18:08

So they really want to make sure their kids knew how to be safe . And it was a 10 year old boy and then a neighbor who was also 10 . The daughter was eight years old and when we were practicing the grip and the side alignment in the home , with the dummy rounds their faces oh look at me , I'm home to gun . They felt like they were so cool you can just like you know , again , see it on their faces . Then we step into the actual shooting range , the indoor range . It's loud and they're on the firing line and again , like people are just shooting , kind of you know loud rifles next to us and they're jumping and their whole demeanor changed oh really , yep . And so they're holding the gun . I think it was a nine millimeter , and so when they fired that first shot they absolutely you know there was no mystery . They knew this is not a toy , this is going to destroy something when you squeeze the trigger . So , I think it's a great experience because again it takes out all the mystery .

Speaker 2 19:07

What age do you have to be to get the certificate for a concealed carry permit ?

Speaker 3 19:11

That's a great question because there's really no age minimum for the certificate that I give to the clients . You have to be 21 years old to get a concealed carry permit . So if you were a responsible 18 , 19 , 20 year old , I would have no problem doing the course with you and then , once you turn 21 on your birthday , you could go to the sheriff's department and turn that in .

Speaker 2 19:33

And it's good for the certificate that you give them , they can use that .

Speaker 3 19:37

So every county is different . So that means there's like a hundred different expiration dates for that . But in Pender County it's good forever . Ok , most of them are good forever . I think there's some counties that

Running for Surf City Town Council

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are only good for like five years . Ok .

Speaker 2 19:58

OK , switching gears here a little bit . You did tell me some very exciting news . You can make the announcement .

Speaker 3 20:04

I just put my name

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in to run for Surf City Town Council . Thanks for letting me talk about this .

Speaker 2 20:09

I don't want to do any politics on the podcast at all and I don't want to , you know , promote one and not the other and look like I'm choosing sides of any sort . But you are running for town council and it's not like a Republican or Democrat , it's just you are an involved member of Surf City and you want to be a voice . Is that right ? Right ?

Speaker 3 20:28

Yeah , there's no letter after your name . You run for town council . It would be different if I was running for school board or county commissioners . There would be a letter after your name . What ?

Speaker 2 20:38

motivated you to run .

Speaker 3 20:40

Like I said , I came from California . When we moved here I felt like I needed a shirt that was like we're the good Californians moving here . I swear , but I just . I'm motivated because Surf City reminds me so much of the beach town I was born and raised in , where it was clean , it was safe , it had great schools . It was a great place to raise your family and because of some failed local and state policies , no matter how well intended they were , I saw things change drastically and very quickly . So the big motivation is I love Surf City . I love that . It's clean , it's safe , great place to raise your family and I don't want to see that change . You want to keep it that way ?

Speaker 2 21:20

OK , so I understand that you just about two weeks ago you shot a gun in Alaska Did . Can you tell me why you shot a gun in Alaska ?

Speaker 3 21:32

Three years ago I started a journey . I really wanted to shoot a gun in all 50 states and Alaska was my 50th state . Really , that is the coolest yeah .

Speaker 2 21:44

How long you said three years ago .

Speaker 3 21:46

Yes , so when I decided I was going to do it , I had four states under my belt , so technically I shot in 46 states in three years Wow , ok .

Speaker 2 21:56

You know it takes some people a lifetime and they don't even hit all 50 states just to travel in . So you really must have been going hard , yeah , and you took lots of pictures and documented this adventure . I sure did .

Speaker 3 22:09

Yep , and I'm almost finished with my book A book .

Speaker 2 22:13

Let's talk about the book . Could you start this adventure knowing that you were going to turn it into a book

Shooting in All 50 States and New Book

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, or the book came afterward ?

Speaker 3 22:20

I had no intention to write a book . It wasn't until I said it was probably about a little over halfway done and a friend of mine from Instagram I saw that he was writing a book . I was like , oh , I don't think he's ever written a book before . Like , if he can do it , why can't I ? Connected with him and he really helped out a lot . So thank you , Josh Brisbane . Once I decided I was going to write a book , I just got so excited because I was kind of getting sad , Like , oh , my journey is coming to an end . So now I kind of get to relive it all and you know , I'll have that book forever . Maybe my daughter can share it with her grandkids one day .

Speaker 2 22:55

Yeah , I think that'll be beautiful . Tell me what you've decided to name your book .

Speaker 3 23:00

Sure , naming the book was kind of tricky . I don't want to be , you know , like Heather shoots across America , but I was telling my grandma about it and my grandma looked at me and said oh , it sounds like you've got 50 states in your sights . And it was like wait , what did you say ? I'm going to write this down .

Speaker 1 23:15

Oh my gosh .

Speaker 3 23:16

You totally just named my book , so the name of the book is called 50 States in my Sight . I love that .

Speaker 2 23:22

Oh yeah .

Speaker 3 23:23

And then she passed away right after . Oh no , but you have to be 94 . And she was ready to go . But thank you , Rie , for that .

Speaker 2 23:31

How long ?

Speaker 3 23:32

ago . Was that when she , when she was almost a year ago today ? Ok yeah .

Speaker 2 23:36

All right Well thank you Up above . Yes , tell me what you enjoy doing outside of High Caliber .

Speaker 3 23:45

Have a horse named Peso and I love riding him . We join Freedom Boat Club , so the Freedom Boat Club has been a lot of fun . So I take the boat out and I love the beach , I love to surf . The water out here has been so great because in California , as you know , it's cold . It's cold 24 seven all year long . All year long . If it gets to 67 , it's like , oh wow , that's warm and out here it's like you don't even flinch some days when the water hits you .

Speaker 2 24:11

Some days it's like bath water , Like it's not even refreshing . Yeah , yeah , let's talk about that surfing , because I've seen pictures of you out there riding . We have some great photographers on our beach here and they really love capturing the surfers and I've seen you out there . So you said your dad taught you he did .

Speaker 3 24:27

Yeah , I remember in college I was so excited I could plan my schedule , so every Monday we'd go to San Onofre and we'd go longboard out there , Nice .

Speaker 2 24:36

Yeah , so fun . Is it

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a big difference in the waves here versus California ? A little bit yeah .

Speaker 3 24:42

You can say it Aw , I guess the word you could use is . Maybe they're a little more consistent in California , but it was just a bonus having waves here in Surf City . But I guess Surf City , we should have some surfable waves . But last week maybe it was the week before the waves were huge and I ran into some people and they were showing me their shots and it was a 12 foot wave .

Speaker 2 25:04

Wow , yes , so you do the longboard surfing competition for Ocean Fast I was thinking about joining .

Speaker 3 25:11

Do you know what they ?

Speaker 1 25:12

do for it , you should .

Speaker 3 25:13

Maybe I will . You have to pick straws .

Speaker 1 25:16

Yes .

Speaker 3 25:16

And it's like the retro you don't know what board you're going to get .

Speaker 2 25:21

I think it sounds so fun . It does . I think the people who compete To watch is what I should have said .

Speaker 3 25:27

There's some good competition in that . Those surfers are really good , so I can't wait to see it , ok .

Speaker 2 25:34

So I want to find out if you have any future plans , whether they're personal . I know about the book , I know about your running for city council . What about any other future plans ?

Speaker 3 25:45

My goal is to teach 150 students this year and I'm definitely going to meet that .

Speaker 1 25:50

Oh , wonderful .

Speaker 2 25:51

Yeah , ok .

Speaker 3 25:52

Maybe next year it'll be maybe 200 students . I love it . Yeah , I think I would like to offer more classes , just like a two hour class . I did a free situational awareness class for the community and then maybe offer something to real estate agents how to be more mindful if you're meeting a stranger client . I've heard horror stories about that actually . Yeah , so just being more safe in that aspect .

Speaker 2 26:17

Explain to me what situational awareness is , because I am hearing these words a lot .

Speaker 3 26:22

It means just being aware of your surroundings , not being on your phone all the time , just kind of looking around and knowing . It's one

Future Plans

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thing if you're in your neighborhood , it's another thing if you're at a gas station late at night . I will tell you , nothing good happens at gas stations late at night . So just little things here and there , little tips Always trying to park under a light . Don't hit your alarm for your car until you're right there . Maybe someone's watching you now .

Speaker 1 26:47

They know where your car is like 20 feet away .

Speaker 3 26:50

So little things like that . Yes , I think they're really good tips for especially girls who are going off to college for the first time .

Speaker 2 26:56

Yes , Very good , Very good point . You mentioned the real estate agents . Has anyone come to you saying can you help me with that ? Are they finding it to be a problem ?

Speaker 3 27:06

Luckily , I feel like more real estate agents they're being proactive . It hasn't like . Definitely in Los Angeles I had so many women who say X , y and Z just happened to me . Now I want to learn how to use a firearm . But here it's like , hey , let's be proactive . Like some firms are coming to me saying can you teach our whole group a class ? So I'm excited about that . And then I had a husband . His wife is a real estate agent and he mentioned there's a lot of land for sale . So now she's just meeting clients out and open .

Speaker 2 27:36

Oh , that's scary yeah .

Speaker 3 27:38

So he got her the class though .

Speaker 2 27:40

Well , good on him , though , looking out , I love that . So I do this thing at the end of each podcast . It's called Final Thoughts , and I just ask if there's just one thing that you really want the listeners to know about you , or High Caliber , like , what's the one key thing that you just really want us to know ?

Speaker 3 27:58

I appreciate this question and what I'll say is if you are someone out there who is thinking about learning to use a firearm , please know that if you take my class again , it's going to be a fun , relaxed setting and I promise you'll walk away feeling more confident and more comfortable with a handgun . So if you have any questions , please feel free to reach out to me . Ok , very good .

Speaker 2 28:22

So how do we contact you ?

Speaker 3 28:24

So my website is highcaliburoccom and you can find me on Instagram , and that would be highcalibur underscore NC .

Speaker 2 28:35

It's a little tricky there because she was in Orange County , so you got the OC and now you're back at now you're

Final Thoughts

Speaker 2 28:41

here in NC . So just to say that one more time , sure , one more time it's .

Speaker 3 28:45

A website is highcaliburoccom , and that's where you'll find all my classes , and on Instagram it is highcalibur , underscore NC . And what about an email address ? That would be Heather at highcaliburoccom and your phone number ? It's 562-331-3033 .

Speaker 2 29:09

All right , there you go , guys . Thank you , listeners , for joining us today and thank you again , heather , for being on the top .

Speaker 1 29:14

So Insider podcast I appreciate it and telling us all about highcalibur .

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